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Waiting for Perfect with L'Oreal Thompson Payton

For many people, especially those of color, we’re taught never to show our underbelly - never to move forward with anything until it’s perfect. It’s almost ingrained in us to wait for perfection before we make a move, which, in reality, only results in delays and sometimes even forfeitures. So how can we get out of our own way and stop waiting for perfection?

In this episode, author and award-winning journalist L'Oreal Thompson Payton gets triggered as she talks about what it means to wait for perfect, how it affects us, how it shows up in our lives, and what we can do about it. From her fertility journey to COVID lockdowns to writing her first book, tune in as L’Oreal shares her experiences with perfectionism, and when it hurt her as well as served her.


  • How L’Oreal’s fertility journey taught her to release control
  • Steps to overcome the need for perfection
  • The connection between procrastination and perfection
  • “Done is better than perfect.”
  • Releasing perfectionism in your relationships
  • Why we need to learn how to rest
  • Can perfectionism ever be useful?


“You can't control life. You can do your best, and you can show up, and you can try again. But you can't be perfect all the time. Nor should you.” - L'Oreal Thompson Payton

“Perfect is the enemy of good. As Black women, we have been conditioned from the womb to work twice as hard to get half as much.” - L'Oreal Thompson Payton


L'Oreal Thompson Payton


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Two beautiful and uber intelligent young women discussing various topics that are extremely relevant for today? I’m in!!! I was not disappointed and I’m sure you won’t be either.

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These ladies talk about real, relatable content. Specifically the Villainous Victims episode. And it’s true…we are all villains in someone else’s story, which can be tough to admit. But necessary to understand.

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This show is such a great listen for young and mature women to let you know you 1) no you’re not crazy 2) you’re no alone 3) your feelings matter. Thank you Alechia & Dani for your real and raw conversations. This should be a TV show!

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I loved Dani views of this topic because I grew up in church also , but as an adult I figured out for myself that we truly should have a relationship with God and I listen to Mike Todd a preacher from Tulsa and he also states same thing. Belief and relationship with God doesn’t require rituals or any of that. I don’t let anything that I’ve seen in the church sway me from my belief in God. I believe in God not man or a religion. God does want us to fellowship with others but God is everywhere! I turn on my worship music all the time at home, in the car etc. it doesn’t require us to be in church because we can have church anywhere

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